Howard Dean vs Barack Obama on Health Care

(previously posted to Daily Kos

Imagine a presidential candidate pushing this three-tiered national health care plan:


- States should be required to guarantee coverage for all children under age 23. In return, the federal government should assume responsibility for drug and acute medical care for Americans over age 65.


- Older Americans deserve a pharmacy benefit under Medicare (an unaffordable impossibility under Bush's current fiscal policies). This would cost $450 billion over 10 years, a little more than 1/4 of the value of Bush's tax cut. With a pharmaceutical package, Medicare becomes a decent insurance program.


- Finally, to cover those between the ages of 23 and 65, we should use the present employer-based system with refundable tax credits and federal subsidies to cover low- and moderate-income Americans who lack insurance.

Imagine this candidate's rivals for the Democratic nomination assailing his plan from the left as not comprehensive enough.

The year was 2004, the candidate was Howard Dean, and the attacks came from people like Dick Gephardt.

In 2004, I supported Howard Dean because he struck me as a pragmatic, rational individual.  I was attracted to him for things that had nothing to do with Iraq (although that was a plus).  These included his sane stances on issues such as gun control, drug legalization, and health care, with the last as his intended centerpiece issue before he pragmatically jumped on the anti-Iraq train.  Dean's plan stemmed first from experience but also seemingly from a mindset that sought first to establish a budget for health care (based on repealing the Bush tax cuts) then determining how he could cover the most people within that budget as part of a plan that could actually pass Congress.  

The last part is important.  As this past year has shown us, a Democratic Congress isn't a rubber stamp for progressive programs.  Howard Dean's health care was doable.  Other's ween't.  The good doctor said:


"All we do is make it easier for people to buy health insurance.  We don't control the health insurance market. Nobody has to change their insurance company or their doctor if they don't want to in this plan, and that's what people objected to in the '90s."

Arguably, candidates who put forward much more ambitious health care plans are either politically naive or pandering to people who want to hear about universal health care without regard to practicality and cost.

Barack Obama has a plan that looks similar to Dean's.  If anything, it feels as if it might have been cribbed a bit from Howard Dean's plan, but Obama lacks Dean's over-arching emphasis of fiscal responsibility.  And, like Dean, Obama has faced criticism from the left for his plan.  But it's a plan which definitely has a place within the boundaries of progressive mainstream thought.



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Re: Howard Dean vs Barack Obama on Health Care (none / 0)

But isn't that a little bit like saying that Obama is about 4 years behind the times?


by Jerome Armstrong on Sun Dec 23, 2007 at 05:02:26 PM EST

Re: Howard Dean vs Barack Obama on Health Care (none / 0)

Not really.  The rationale for Dean's plan remains valid today and can stand against attempts at weak snarky criticism.


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by Anthony de Jesus on Sun Dec 23, 2007 at 05:44:14 PM EST
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Re: Howard Dean vs Barack Obama on Health Care (2.00 / 1)

Not to me.  As a lifetime committed republican, I can't even begin to tell you what any of Dean's positions were.  I can, however, imitate an amazing account of the scream.

I'll do more research, but I think what we all need to be thinking now is how to make America, both at home and abroad, the best that it can be.

I've been to several countries during Reagan, Bush, and Clinton.  I had the misfortune of honeymooning in France and Italy during Bush.

So.... the question I ask myself, as a Republican, is who can heal the wounds inflicted upon the reputation of my Country.

And I'm chosing Obama.

I live in North Carolina, and although I admire the Edwards family, I have no great love for John.  I work in construction, and that great big house and all the outbuildings associated with it went to an out of state contractor.... cheapest I guess.  But when his wife swore off tangerines because they weren't "local", I found that disingenuous.

I work for the local economic developement, and we've worked hard to establish a "buy local" program.  And to have it hijacked for political purposes just really made me angry.  Buy Local is not for the environment, although it contributes to the overall health, but it's specifically designed to assist those "Poor Folk" than Edwards keeps trying to hoist up in his rhetoric.  

If he really wanted to help the everyday guy, they'd eat the one dollar tangerines and give the job of building his mini palace to local residents.\

With regards to Hillary, I have no opinion other than I will vote republican before resorting to her.  I just have a really bad feeling about the amount of her life that she has invested in getting to this moment and I have to wonder who she's sold her soul to.

Anywho.... Hello.... Newbie here.  Love you guys.


Carla
by hillsboroughrules on Sun Dec 23, 2007 at 07:40:27 PM EST
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Re: Howard Dean vs Barack Obama on Health Care (none / 0)

And with that argument, Obama has a plan that is similar Hillary's, only not even as good as hers.


by LindaSFNM on Sun Dec 23, 2007 at 05:39:36 PM EST

Howard Dean didn't call it "universal" (none / 0)

Dean was careful to point out that he was not calling for universal coverage, just universal "access". I wouldn't object to Obama's claims if he were honest about them, if he admitted that his plan is a conservative, fiscally prudent, non-universal plan. And he is welcome to criticize his opponents plans on those grounds.

He can't claim he is proposing universal health coverage, and he can't pretend that his opponents aren't proposing universal health coverage.


by souvarine on Sun Dec 23, 2007 at 06:18:06 PM EST


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