Polls: Young People Are More Supportive of the War in Iraq

Gallup has a new poll out on age as factor in Iraq war support.  Read it quick, because these articles usually go up behind a pay firewall after a while.  The study yields this conclusion:


Here again, we find evidence for the persistence of the age factor in views of the war regardless of one's gender or political orientation. Within every subgroup of the American population created by the combination of age, gender, and party identification, those who are 50 and older are more likely than those under age 50 to say the war was a mistake.

All in all, perceptions that the war was a mistake range from a low of 20% among 18- to 49-year-old Republican women to a high of 89% among Democratic men and Democratic women aged 50 and older.

It is no great stretch of the imagination to hyothesize, as Gallup does, that older people may have a better regard for history and past wars.  And it's fairly interesting suggestion that this generational divide helps Democrats because older people are more likely to vote.

The only age cohort that has more people saying the Iraq war was not a mistake than saying that it was is the 30-39 age group which, perhaps uncoincidentally had formative years that included the Reagan era.

I've suggested in the past that young people are not particularly progressive, but are more libertarian, fooling some people into being overly optimistic about the future based on a false image of an age group that is more supportive of torture than other age groups and more supportive of the idea of "getting even" with enemies.

While they don't have the data to breakdown gender and party by age cohorts as finely tuned as separation by decade (or choose not to share it), these are still interesting trends.

My theory is that younger (as in under-40) people who oppose the war are more likely to do so because they think that Bush has messed things up even though an invasion wasn't necessarily a bad thing.  This is one voter bloc that might have a mild downturn in Democratic suport if the Republicans are capable of spinning cosmetic results of the "surge" strategy to falsely suggest improvement.  Not a huge downturn, but as past elections show, even the smallest bumps can have an influence on elections.  

If a Democratic candidate were to fine-tune a message to an audience, I would suggest that the younger audience should get the "Bush and the Republicans are incompetent, bumbling idiots" while before an older audience it should be stressed that "Bush and the Republicans are immoral and unethical".  Of course, Bush and friends are both, but the message should be simplified to one or the other in certain settings.



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30-39 year-olds are too young to have kids that would serve in Iraq and too old to serve themselves. There less chance that the Iraq War can effect this cohort personally than any other group. It's selfish and displays a lack of awareness but I wouldn't blame Reagan.

70+ and 80+ Americans have a veto-proof opinion that the War in Iraq was a mistake. Democrats should use this fact to refute the Bush Administration and any Republican that ever makes the analogy to World War II and sacrifice. The very people who lived through WWII are the ones most opposed to the War in Iraq.

For people that know firsthand Bush's rhetoric about sacrifice and threats are clearly false.


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by joejoejoe on Sun May 13, 2007 at 05:24:34 AM EST

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People in that age cohort do tend to be more conservative.


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by jallen on Sun May 13, 2007 at 05:28:07 AM EST
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I wouldn't be quick to make that generalization.  I know some parents in the 30-39 age group who have kids to young yet to serve in the military but who have expressed concerns about war lasting long enough that there will still be fighting when their kids are old enough.


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by Anthony de Jesus on Sun May 13, 2007 at 05:26:21 PM EST
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Plus the 30-39 cohort didn't live through Vietnam, they were born at the end of it or after it.  I think many Americans remember Vietnam and see how similar it was to the current Iraq War.

We've had over 20,000 soldiers wounded, many of whom would have died if they received the same injury in Vietnam.  And even though they come home, many of them are literally in pieces.


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by Vox Populi on Sun May 13, 2007 at 12:06:47 PM EST

Re: Supportive of the War in Iraq (none / 0)

I think that it's a mistake to oversimplify things by tying it completely to Vietnam.  I think there are other things at work here as well.


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by Anthony de Jesus on Sun May 13, 2007 at 05:23:43 PM EST
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Young Republican women (none / 0)

are not too many these days... Ann Coulter and who else?

Imagine meeting a young Republican woman in college today. What would she look like? Would it be possible to speak to her or would you have to shout?


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by Populism2008 on Sun May 13, 2007 at 01:29:35 PM EST

Re: Young Republican women (none / 0)

Based on my experience of young Republican women in college, I would guess that she would look normal except for dressing a bit more conservatively and be passionately "pro-life" on abortion.


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by Anthony de Jesus on Sun May 13, 2007 at 05:30:31 PM EST
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Pony Plans (none / 0)

I think the easy explanation is that young people like ponies a lot more.


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by clarkent on Sun May 13, 2007 at 05:28:26 PM EST

The Vietnam Question (none / 0)

BTW, from what I understand, young people were also more supportive of the Vietnam War at the time than other age cohorts.


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by clarkent on Sun May 13, 2007 at 05:29:59 PM EST

Unprecedented!!! (none / 0)

I protested a great deal during Vietnam. I can assure everyone, we did not have the older people on our side at all. They seemed to have images of WW II stuck in their heads. This situation is unprecedented, from my perspective. I think that a lot of young people who get to the internet start to catch on. Very obviously the media circus is pulling the old hoodoo over their inexperienced little heads. They are stuck in a media bubble. Another thing: The "red state" folks are really taking a pounding. Their kids must be seeing something by now. Like siblings coming back injured. Or sometimes not coming back.

This entire disaster scenario was 100% predicted dead-on by people like Scott Ritter. In fact, it has become even worse than what he predicted.

And for those of you who don't keep a close eye on the news, Pakistan is becoming very unstable, and there is just no telling what this could lead to. This could get stark pretty fast. The white house had better hire itself some diplomacy pro's real soon.


by blues on Sun May 13, 2007 at 11:05:45 PM EST

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"Young People"?????

Looking at the data, it is voters 30 to 50 that are more conservative on the war.

Don't you mean "Middle-Aged" people are more supportive of the war?  

Keep up your youth bashing.  Keep making the case (albeit not directly, but just through misleading headlines) to ignore the millenials.  

Excellent work.

I have never written a Diary before, but I am getting the picture here.  I will write a Diary that headlines "Boomers and old people more likely to be neocon fascists who lead us to war."   The Diary will then go through and document the age of all those in congress and in the administration who voted for this stupid war.  Horrendous leaps of logic shouldn't stop this from getting recommended given the power of my facts.


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by Orlando on Mon May 14, 2007 at 01:47:22 PM EST


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